Which is worse?

2010-07-16 - Friday - 11:43 PM - Facebook | Blogspot - The 16th of July of 2010 on Jeff Walter's Facebook

Compare & Contrast

Jeff Walters asked

Which sin is worse? Divorce to re-marry or homosexuality?

Judge God Knows

2010-07-16 - Friday - 11:43 PM - Meschelle Sirovina wrote

Only GOD can answer that. Who am I to judge?

Ignorance

Jeff replied

Ignorance is much worse than either of the two!

Sin is Sin?

Brittany Williams wrote

sin is sin. there's not one that is worse than another, all of it seperates.

Dropping Free Knowledge

2010-07-17 - Saturday - 12:23 AM - Danny Song wrote

Jeff Walters Sr. dropping some free knowledge up in here.

Opinionated

Tim Urata wrote

Dude sounds like people are very opinionated on that.. Homosexuality is odd but watever that's them.. Remarriage is fuckin retarded.. You got devorced for a reason..

Differences

Danny returned

LOL so there's no difference between marrying two completely different people?

Progressivism

Jenna Eunice from out of nowhere

We are in 2010...enough said

Who Cares

Tim stabs this one in the dark

I could give two shits less about anyone but myself.. My friends I love but strangers I don't give two shits about.. Everyone lives for them selves n not anyone else..

Baggage Yo

Jeff to save the day

It just gets me thinking about the people who talk down on others when they have baggage themselves, ya know? I hope the question didn't offend anyone.

Shellfish or Haircut

Arash 'Ash' Khosrowshahi in with this question

I also wonder whether it's worse to eat shellfish (Lev. 11:11) or get a haircut (Lev. 19:27).

With Brittany, Bitch

Jackeliene Raney in with this one

I'm with Brittany up there. All sin is sin, which is why God doesn't call us to judge.

Sin is Sin?

Coralyn A. Wilson replied

sin is sin.

Ignoring Standards

Josh Banfield made this Bible-defying statement

Homosexuality is not a sin.

The 9th Doctrine

Look at the 9th doctrine of The Salvation Army

Lisa Aird

Ahh Jeffrey the question does not offend. And it is one people often think of. Are you sure it is talking down? All are forgiven and fall short, but what we do with that is what matters. Do we keep on sinning against God? Or do we make the change needed? God does not rank sin as one being higher than another (except blasphemy which is the ultimate), but he does forgive us our sin.

Ditto Was His Name Oh

Kathy Powell Lamaster with this quicky

Ditto with Lisa!

Responsibility

Chuck Smalley

Tim, everyone is responsible for themselves and so in one sense we all live for ourselves but not everyone lives selfishly. I'm sure you've heard of Mother Teresa. There are many like her who live their lives helping others. Every military person gives of him/herself for others... My son lost his best friend in Iraq. He did not die for himself... See More. Then, Jesus lived and gave His life for all who will receive Him with not one self serving aspect or though about it. I hope you come to know Him and know real love and peace.

Intuition

Aligning to the Internet of the Universe

2010-07-17 - Saturday - 09:33 AM - Joey Arnold - I wrote the following:

There was a time that only God knew that Jesus was the only way to Heaven. This means that God does allow us to know things when the time is right, if we are willing to listen, to obey. Just because God knows something, that does not necessary mean that we are to not know what God knows. We must never ever try to say that we cannot know the things that God knows. We should never try to say that we cannot have the mind of Christ, that only God knows the answer (in other words, we should never give up on the pursuit of finding those answers, the answers that only God knows).

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Romans

Chuck on Nero and Rome

We can not expect the unbeliever to act like a believer. Amongst unbelievers the type of sin they are engaged in is irrelevant. However, the society that embraces sin will be judged by God. Jesus made an exception regarding divorce so while we cannot say divorce is never to be neither should we give wholesale license to it. I think that you are struggling with moral equivalence. Moral equivalence is the tool of those who would give license to whatever they find to be acceptable. And, without God all things are acceptable. Nero was a blatant homosexual, Rome condoned it, Nero became increasingly paranoid and Rome burned. You do the math. Look at the beginning of Romans again. Sin has a downward spiral.

Homosexuality vs Nero

Jeff with this question to Chuck

So Chuck, you relate homosexuality of today to Nero, who burned innocent people on stakes? And about divorce, the question was referring to re-marrying, which is adultery, says Jesus. So that we don't get sidetracked, sin is sin, right? So why do so many church folk condemn homosexuality or abortion, and not re-marriage? And how is one sin justified while others get the magnifying glass? Arash's post, I gotta say, spells this out pretty clearly.

Focus

Pamela added

Jeff I hear your point. People do judge, and where people are in groups they tend to stick on side. Ive seen this happen before for this and that. I feel that everyone sins and we shouldnt waste time crying over the sins that others make. We manage to make ourself suffer enough for the things we beat ourself up for personally. This is why I dont cast eyes on those who do the worldly things that we get caught up in ourselves. The word is for personal use and growth and we are encourage to share not to cast hate onto others for ANY sin they make. He will deal with our sins when the time comes and forgive us for what we have hurt for in our hearts. Jeff continue to be who you are and practice what you believe and feel is right. When you are standing infront of him at the end of the day that way the best thing you can tell him is you stayed true to who you are. love you x

Thanks Pam

Jeff returned

Thanks Pam! You're so gentle and nice, haha. Come back and visit us!

Permission

Chuck followed

Jesus gave permission for divorce under one circumstance and Paul in 1 Cor. implies while regrettable permissible. This does not automatically give approval to remarrying but there seems to be some room here for it. However, the divorce by a believer for the sake of remarrying is definitely wrong and is condemned by the Bible and conservative Churches. Once the deed is done are they forever lost to the Church and God? There is no sin the blood of Jesus can not cleans. The repentant will be forgiven the unrepentant sinner, homosexual or remarried divorcée, will suffer the consequences. Nero had a young man surgically altered to resemble a woman, married him in a public ceremony, paraded him through the streets and later himself became a wife to another man. Nero's homosexuality was what led to his paranoia which in turn led to the persecution of Christians and the burning of Rome, he is the most likely suspect behind the burning. The embracing of sexual sins and particularly homosexuality is what led to the fall of Rome. You will, also, remember Sodom and Gomorrah. Look at Romans 1:27. The homosexual suffers in this life "in their own person"... and in the life to come. The society that embraces immorality will be judged and suffer the consequences. Are you referring to the shellfish haircut comment? That is completely handled by Paul numerous times in his letters. Let me ask you, are you trying to help the Church by calling her to a more consistent and holier witness or are you trying to justify homosexuality? Do you think the Bible is errant and therefore that God is fallible that He couldn't give us an inerrant Bible?

Differences in Sin

Ronald Gilden on the contrast between different types of sin which has different consequences in regards to our fellowship, our life, not to be confused with eternal salvation: Ronald wrote the following

Tricky issue. Presumably, we're defining sin as it's laid out in the Bible, correct? Every sin isn't equal, according to the Bible. There are specific sins that require different sacrifices, or reparation, sometimes excommunication, or even death. Even when two people commit the same sin, depending on their level of office or responsibility, different sacrifices are required of them- less is required of a common person than of a priest. Praise be to God that He offered the ultimate atonement, amen? While both Jesus and Paul speak against divorcing one's spouse and remarrying, there's always a specific context (i.e. divorcing a spouse for the sake of marrying another person), there's also admonitions to remarry (the first one that comes to mind is 1 Tim. 5:3-16, as well as numerous times in the Torah). Regarding homosexuality – the problem with the Bible is that it doesn't change itself too terribly well to keep with what gets deemed by our society as acceptable. So, one of us is wrong. The other issue is that, on some level, God's people are supposed to keep their believing brothers and sisters accountable, even possibly to a level that is uncomfortable to us: 'I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner – not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those who are outside? Do you not judge who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore, “put away from yourselves the evil person.” ' - 1 Cor. 5:9-13. Paul continues to note that the sexually immoral (among others) will not be received by God – but that's only if we don't turn to Him and seek to abandon the things He calls sin– 'Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.' - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

Beauty of Interpretation

2010-07-18 - Sunday - 06:17 PM - Jeff with this cunny remark

I could have sworn the answer was a lot simpler. But I guess that's the beauty of interpretation!

New Testament

2010-07-20 - Tuesday - 07:07 AM - Martha Sheppard wrote

actually, the new testament is pretty clear that all sins are NOT equal. (I don't know where we get this idea from . . .) there are "weightier" issues, there are sins that lead to death, there are sins to the flesh. God is not known for his lack of complexity.

Avatar Kitten Killer Joke

2010-07-20 - Tuesday - 07:43 AM - Fulton Hawk coming in like a real hawk in the night with this tear-jerker

Homosexuals who divorce and remarry are the greatest sinners, very close to kitten killers and those who enjoyed Avatar:)

Three Strikes

Martha with this comeback or strike-out

hey, i liked avatar and I'm remarried and once I ran over a dog. man, i hate that - three strikes!

Mercy Me

Jeff Strain

sigh. Can we ever know the depth of mercy and grace of God's love? When in doubt, defer to love.

Which is worse?

Eternal Perspective

2010-07-21 - Wednesday - 02:30 PM - I wrote the following

Martha, all sins are similar only to some extent, generically implying simply that all sins are variantly bad: it's almost like saying that all dogs are the same (which is to say one dog is more similar to another dog than it is similar to another pen: especially since say a Sheppard dog has more similarities to a poodle than it does to a pen). Of course you already knew that but I'm just saying it, ok, I had to, I swear.

But which sin is worse is a debate limited by perspective, by opinions, by interpretations, by stereotypes, by regrets from the past, by our eyes, by our views, by our mind, by all those things in which we are all stuck in to some extent. Ok, we are not all completely stuck in them but we were all stuck in them, in spiritual darkness, in depravity, in sin, and that effects our view, our judgment, on making the right calls on which is worse.

Sin takes us from the will of God, from what is best, from that path, that journey towards the promise land, towards destiny.

Sin is like the rocks and logs that trip us up on that mountain hike towards God's will, and which sin is worse, which sin is going to knock you off that mountain, which sin is going to get you down the most, which sin do you not like the most, or which sin is a bigger rock or log or hole really all depends.

Of course, which sins God hates the most is a question with an absolute answer to it, however, one key factor is in understanding the character to God first (which is love), that is where we must start with first especially since we don't want to go about all of this the wrong ways (or through the wrong motives of fear over love).

In other words, we don't want to go about searching for the answer to this Jeffrey Walters question in the wrong ways or through the wrong motives or intentions or whatever, that is why Theology (which journeys towards understanding God's character, God's Will, God's take on sin but moreover on God's take on living right) is key, get it, that is why Theology, I will say it again if I have to, that is why Theology is key in answering Jeffrey Walter's question, folks.

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