And that's a multi-year thing because by the time you get them, they're already wired to think wrong. So you have to rewire them and that takes time and that takes energy.
It takes motivational interviewing and it also takes people who are connected to them in say a correctional environment or a therapeutic environment, following the process correctly.
And then once you get them going in the right place, I mean what I said in that last one, they're hanging out with other people who have those same problems. Sometimes like they say, one of the things they'll say is, oh, they're not connected with their families anymore. Well, their families are the ones that have those problems.
So you have to find some other support network for them as they're recovering or give them the support themselves, either through probation or some kind of community nonprofit that knows what they're doing.
Right now a lot of our nonprofits are not ready for prime time. They're just getting money.
They're not success. All they really count is this is how many people went in our classes. They're not really counting how many people went through their class and didn't recidivate.
So there's, you know, and you have to wipe all those programs out because they're a waste of money, right? And then once you're dealing with the top tier ones, you start clicking off the bottom ones.
Every time somebody comes in custody, the way I looked at it, if I, like we had high school programming.
If they were, we'd assess them on their educational level, if they're deficient in English, that we'd target them in English class and got them up to say from 10th grade English to 12th grade English, right, while they were in custody.