My first grade math teacher died of cancer at a fairly young age, so maybe "karma" was at play. We may never know. I do not believe you have the slightest difficulty with Venn diagrams. You're a poet! You see connections, and disconnects, with eyes we ordinary (less poetic) mortals have. As for the "bad" Venn diagram above, I am still perturbed that SPOON is not in the subset or set/intersect. {{ mad face }] {{steam blowing out my ears}}