I can respect your feelings on the eyeliner brush. They’re super messy. I’ve also accidentally left the gel cap open thus drying out my liner. That’s probably why I took a break from gel but then I switched back when a faulty liquid liner dripped on my favorite dress. Nothing was gonna save it. I have a love hate relationship with all liners.

I did check out the Stila liner. I agree a little shiny but I could make it work. I’ll probably pick one up when I run out of my current liner.