RE: RE: Quantum Consciousness
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I have to refute the misconception that if one is not a practicing specialist one cannot understand a specialty. I don't have to know how to steer a spaceship to understand the principle. The difference between the controls on the Buran from those on the Enterprise (the Soviet and American shuttles built in the 1980s) is essential to actually controlling those spacecraft, but inconsequential to understanding the principles of how they are steered.

"...the aspiration to understand everything in which I myself have no training is futile effort..."

In view of my above comment, it is also untrue to consider not being able to perform the specific dance a crucible handler at a steel mill undertakes as depriving one of benefits from having understanding of the Bessemer Process, for example. Carnegie never himself had any such skill. It is laughable to assert he therefore did not benefit from understanding steel production.

Similarly it is laughable that so many have so much reverence for degrees and strings of letters after names on framed documents. It is rather the reverse understanding of knowledge that better applies, and those that have gained understanding without it being necessary to be professionally packaged and taught them that have the most benefit from it. This is obvious from consideration of our icons of industry that either have no degrees, or have no degrees in their more notable achievements, like Gates, Musk, Bezos, and Branson (note I did not say heroes, as it is not my intention to claim these people have any beneficial intentions. They are certainly competent, and demonstrably the peak of competence, in their fields).

"...only the "good people" will experience, but what happens to those you identify as evil?"

I will here restate that I am no adherent of any religion. I do not believe in any formulaic paradise with harps and angels on fluffy clouds. No magical power lies behind any of the benefits that are foreseen by me of free people producing the blessings of civilization. I don't advocate taking any action to punish people I consider evil (although there is certainly reason to undertake just prosecution and sanction of criminals, to prevent them from continuing to harm people).

Evil is it's own reward. As good people produce good products, exchange them and benefit from their good faith, the psychopaths hell bent on dystopian tyranny are utterly defeated. It's not possible for them to settle, because they're actually neurologically broken. That's what psychopath, as opposed to sociopath, means. They are incapable of grasping other people are people, of socialization. The idea of love or affection is simply incomprehensible to them, except as an intellectual abstraction, like we can understand the speed of a fighter jet at Mach III. We don't know what it feels like to sit in the seat as we pass through the sound barrier. Psychopaths can't resign themselves to being peers in a healthy society. That is impossible for them who can only conceive of themselves as a person whose drives and desires have meaning, and can only conceive of other people as objects.

They can only suffer eternally their failure to rule despotically. It is their very evil that will cause them to suffer, not any revenge I plot against them. As centralization fails and decentralization surpasses it, and free society has only to be secure from the conquest overlords must depend on, which security is an aspect of decentralization, sociopaths can adapt. Psychopaths cannot.

Paradise as I use the term has no religious connotations, but is the society of free people creating literally awesome wealth, possessing productive means controlled by AI that enables them to prompt it's automation, just as today people prompt LLM's for the text or images ChatGPT and Stable Diffusion produce. Just because prompters don't know how to mix the paint and what angle at which to press the brush against canvas does not reduce to them the value of the images produced for their personal enjoyment. Just so in the coming maturation of decentralized and automated production in the wider environment that is becoming available as we develop space travel.

It's hard to even imagine being free from coercion by overlords with armies, much less able to prompt AI to mine some asteroids in another solar system to pave some roads with gold, but that level of wealth will become unremarkable in due time. From our perspective, and even more so the perspective of a First Century Palestinian shepherd, how else can such a society be described than paradise?

We can actually grasp the requisite technologies necessary to that development of roads. I can understand AI and automation, chemical rockets and robot mining of metal rich asteroids, smelting of ores and milling and machining of gold. All that technology is at least able to be understood as competent to all those specific tasks today, if not specifically competent as an automated package I can just speak into action. I need invoke no sky daddy to make it happen, and I don't.

Nothing more than greed inspiring the requisite time and engineering of extant technology is necessary, and no conceivable cabal or tyranny can prevent it, except perhaps actual evil demonic magic. But, of course, if we posit such magical beings and power opposing such development, that comes with more powerful magical beings and power mandating it, so there's no potential for belief that evil will prevail from that vector.

There is much else I have considered inevitable as these technologies inevitably continue to be developed that is unnecessarily complex and would detract from our present discussion, but I will say that no magical power is necessary to produce any of the religious conceptions of Heaven or Paradise believed in by any zealot of any faith.

Real physics and work by people will prove competent in due time to all these things, and more and greater things besides. No prophet on Patmos ever predicted Dyson spheres, for example.

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