(sorry for late reply - time zones)

What I'm attempting to point out and often fail is how the support system is the only thing that makes this platform different. It's not used effectively though or even marketed.

Agree! I think this highlights that we're actually both in agreement. I even said in my original response this very statement. Hive itself is ready to go, the issue is not its function, but its appeal (none).

When I explain it, most can't see how consumers/supporters and investors have different mindsets....You're not one and explaining this any other way still won't make sense to you.

It's not that I, or others are too low IQ to understand these basic principles of how things should, could and would work. It's just demonstrably, they aren't, don't, and won't.

I've literally been here for as long as you, pretty consistently the entire time, I've been involved in projects for years and I have plans for a new one. So I personally believe in the system and obviously see its potential and the various ways it can be utilized effectively. If not, I would have quit long ago.

However, it's just not an ecosystem conducive to 99.99999%+ of people as consumers/supporters, let alone a hawkish investment-minded elite who could get the place kickstarted. I get that there's an entirely new way of thinking about things regarding stakes and encouraging engagement for rewards. But that clearly, demonstrably isn't nearly enough.

Hell, this place could have the greatest possible online ecosystem ever to be constructed that could single-handedly transform the planet into a utopia. It still won't get off the ground on merit alone.

Generally, it's the support a project gets from big investors that gives users the confidence of legitimacy and up-and-coming vibes. Even that doesn't guarantee things - just look at all the failed Google projects out there with all the financial backing in the world - but it absolutely raises the chances far more than simply depending on users being slowly drawn in like a donkey drawn to a carrot on a stick.

Most people from outside coming in think about it as such: A dodgy place where you turn money into fake money in order to generate more fake money which you can't actually do anything with, and you have to suffer through reading boring content and writing even more boring content in order to acquire said fake money.

That ball and chain has never been able to be shaken off. Marketing to consumers alone isn't gonna be enough. If Bill Gates came along and studied it and poured a ton of his money into it, then everyone will be like 'well hang on a minute, legit, uncensored blockchain social media? I'm in!'

Alternatively, front ends are perhaps wiser to conceal or minimize the very fact that blockchain and hive is even involved in whatever project they create, and make those independent projects successful in and of themselves in the traditional sense of start-ups