And it was because commercialism basically forced artists into a branding work rather than we are representing companies and businesses and they're paying for the work, so you do it exactly the way they want it. And we're now basically reduced to corporate branders. And that's not art.
It's just not. It's a use of symbolism and we understand the symbolism in a Nike swoosh or, you know what I mean?
But to what end? You know, when are we going to get our voice back is what I've been wondering for many years now, you know? And I feel like right now is our time to shine for sure. There's things going on in the world that need to be spoken about, but we need to tread carefully at the same time because we are going to rubble feathers.
And so we need to take the lessons of those masters in the way that they express these messages in a subversive way. You know, we can't just directly out and out paint the ugly. Of course we can.
I couldn't do, I mean, we could. Yeah, but I couldn't put myself through some of the... What you're talking about has been going on since the beginning of time with painters, artists.
The first artists, great artists, were all in the employ of either the Roman Catholic Church or they were in the employ of the kings or queens or... And kings and queens.
You know, and they painted what they wanted them to. And this has gone throughout history, the voice of the individual artist, but they would sneak things in. They would sneak things in.
But then we got to a point where we said, well, we can do, say what we want. And you have Goya risking his own life by painting those paintings. He felt it was so worthwhile that he was ready to die rather than not paint those paintings.