You tried but you didn't, your arguments were total fallacies. They had absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. It was no better and no worse than when I was talking to a religious person nearly a fanatic and he asked me what I thought of God I told him I thought God was some sort of energy that was every where even inside of us, and he came up with the wonderful idea that I was saying I was God. See that is why trying to debate these things is a waste of time anything you are told that goes against what you belive is crap because only what you believe can be true. What i said still holds everybody knows absolutely zero about this subject so whatever you or I think is worth the same, nothing.