Unless you've been hiding underneath a rather large rock for the past week you are sure to have seen the news about the so called "alt-right," which includes groups like the KKK, and yes, even literal Nazis. If on top of not living under a rock, you also happen to be one of the few people on social media sites like, say, facebook, you are sure to have seen people representing nearly all walks of life arguing over things like whether it is morally acceptable to punch Nazis (it is,) whether people fighting Nazis are as bad as Nazis because of their use of violence (they aren't) and if Nazis are left wing socialists.
Well, these arguments made their way to twitter in a rather hilarious break down of the arguments brought by those who claim Nazism is the same as socialism...
Ian Miles, a self-proclaimed journalist decided to blame the left for the fascist ideology, well this didn't go over well with a historian who happen to catch sight of the tweet...Nazis were socialist. https://t.co/WTmYzfxlKi
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) August 17, 2017
Ok, dickhead, I did this politely to someone else earlier, but now I'm going to rinse you. Prepare. https://t.co/HcgpKHY3Cq
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
Yeah, the Nazis called themselves the 'National Socialists', and they even nicked some (incredibly benign) socialist policies...
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
It is, however, a total misnomer, it's like the World Series, or Democratic People's Republic of Korea, or 'ethics in gaming journalism'.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
Notice he said fascism rose as a reaction to the left, a reaction by those who wanted to keep or gain power, due to fear of leftist ideologies that give the power to the people.The Nazis were fascists. Indisputably. They drew their ideology from Italy's fascists, who arose in reaction to the Left.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
The Italian Right, @stillgray, still mired in 19th century thought, could not tackle the explosion in left-wing organization.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
Mussolini gives us the first fascist platform - national/racial superiority, rearmament & expansion, and consolidation of capital.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
The Italian Fascists appropriated, wholesale, Roman imagery, such as the 'fasces', to evoke renewed national pride & a sense of superiority. pic.twitter.com/nOr1ohA76P
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
The Italian Fascists sought, @stillgray, to expand & reclaim historically Italian lands (mirroring a large portion of the old Roman Empire). pic.twitter.com/2Rot3O9gZN
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
"Enriching the few," far from the left wing philosophies that promote equality.After nicking some socialist economic policies (public works & spending), fascist government formed corporate cartels, enriching the few.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
Hitler & his Deutcher Arbeiter Partei mates see this and decide that they need to steal support from actual socialists, @StillGray... pic.twitter.com/Fq9ylQcch7
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
...so the DAP rebadge themselves as the NSDAP... Socialism still being a relatively new ideology. It's like adding 'e-' to a product name. pic.twitter.com/AwsIr5CPaE
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
Otherwise, they were fascist - 1. Saw themselves as racially/nationally superior, 2. Wanted rearmament & expansion, 3. Consolidated capital.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
3. The Germans used socialist economic policies, before retreating to a corporate cartel base. Companies like Krupp made $$$. pic.twitter.com/qrjXTAkp2s
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
"Krupp was one of the largest industrial combines in Germany and a recipient of slave labor from Auschwitz during the war." source
The actual socialists who emerged after Marx wanted three things - 1. Removal of classes. 2. World socialism. 3. Distribution of capital.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
There was a huge gap between rich & poor in Tsarist Russia. The Bolsheviks sought to eliminate this division (yes, by violent revolt). pic.twitter.com/PMDlS6IeGT
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
After they succeeded, the Bolsheviks wanted to take the Revolution worldwide. Heard of 'Comintern'? No race, no nations, only socialism. pic.twitter.com/nmHUsh4Gsv
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
So, if you're peddling this 'munuhmunuh NAZIS ARE SOCIALISTS' bullshit you're either massively dense or an evil prick.
— Mike Stuchbery 💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) August 17, 2017
Not all related tweets have been shown, but you can find the historians twitter here, and the twitter of the would be journalist, complete with plenty of other hilarious twitter rants, replies, and fights, here.
I hope you enjoyed the rant as much as I did, and check out the ranters twitter as it really is quite interesting, I also hope that you know the difference between fascism, power to the elite, and socialism, power to the people.