Our garden is growing out of control. Somewhat neglected but that's kind of the benefits of no-till. We are planning to throw these outside in a staggered fashion still. They are growing great despite the fact that they're still white flies. We don't treat these with anything and really have gone out of her way to not use Captain Jacks dead bug at all. But if we're going to put these in the flower I don't want them around better safe than sorry. I've been talking about it for months and I think I'm finally going to do it I'm going to get some Captain Jack's this week. Captain Jack's is basically an organic form of spinosad A and B which are bacterial microbes that eat bugs from the inside out. This is a medical Garden nothing for sale.