You have said you genuinely wanted to understand the other side.

You talk a lot about integrity and morality, but it not clear what moral code you are referring to - there are many.

The US Founding Fathers were religious Christians and founded the United States on Judeo-Christian morality.

Religiously observant Christians and Jews, who practice Judeo-Christian morality, voted overwhelmingly for Trump (Orthodox Jews by 80%).

They did this because the Democratic party has become strongly influenced by its extreme left elements including Antifa, BLM and The Squad who are constantly attacking traditional Judeo-Christian morals and practices.

The massive erosion of traditional Judeo-Christian values and practices by "progressive" values and practices over the past 60 years is extremely concerning to them and Obama and Biden have openly supported more and more attacks.

So when you use these words like morality, integrity, established norms and wishes of the Founders, you are assigning meanings to these words that are NOT what Trump voters mean by them.

You are entitled to your own morality and values but the "progressive" morality and values that you espouse are NOT the values and morality on which the USA was founded, nor those of most Trump supporters.

If you want to understand the other side start with the basic understanding that their morals and values may be fundamentally different from yours.

@ironshield @bearbear613 @smithlabs may wish to comment on this.