More etymology! :) Starting with Logic and ending with Logos!

I watched a video on YouTube this morning and.. While I have some mixed feelings on the guy doing it and I'm not totally sure what to think of him.
I found the video to have a really positive message I agree a lot with.

He was basically suggesting that language is super important and makes up our life much more than most think..
And also that he thinks we should generally look up new words when we find them, which I also agree with.
As well as looking up every day common words that we think we know.. Which I highly agree with and think is a great message! I wish more people were saying this.

Cause if you think about it.. How often do you look up words? I think most people seem to just hear words used in certain context and then assume they know what they mean.
Our schools don't really focus very much on the definitions of basic words either!
Like.. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to who claim such absolute knowledge in regards to things about the world, yet.. They've never even looked up the word science.

And this applies to almost every area of debate. Most people I've debated about God whether they believe in God or are opposed to the idea.. Have never looked up the word God, let alone the etymological history.
And even myself.. As I self reflect, even though I had a habit of looking up words when younger, I was similar to a lot of people in thinking I know what a lot of words mean just cause I've heard them used in some context.
When in reality, there's still a lot of average every day words I use that I've never looked up the definition for!

It's sort of like.. Being able to drive a car without knowing how the car works.. The way many if not most people use language.
Though.. It's such an important thing, I wanna know how it works.. So I've spent a good amount of time recently getting deep into language.
You may be familiar with posts of mine where I do this and talk about words and go into etymology and.. Tonight I just want to quickly make a post about this and look up a simple common word that I use often.

So.. Lesse... What word should I pick...
How about.. Logic.. That's a word I love! And I've never looked it up.
First of all before I even check any of the definitions.. I have to wonder if this word is associated with "Logos"..
I have a feeling it is! But let's find out.

The modern definitions first.
noun
1.the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference.
2.a particular method of reasoning or argumentation:
We were unable to follow his logic.
3.the system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or study.
4.reason or sound judgment, as in utterances or actions:
There wasn't much logic in her move.
5.convincing forcefulness; inexorable truth or persuasiveness:
the irresistible logic of the facts.
6.Computers. logic circuit.

From this the two main words that pop out to me are.. Inference and Reason.
I feel like I generally know what these words mean, though I wanna look them up anyways cause I don't think I ever have before.

Inference is basically the state of something inferred.
And to infer is to.. Sort of.. Draw a conclusion based on reason.
At this point I'm seeing both logic and inference as sort of synonyms with the word reason.

Let's see what reason means.
The first definition at the site I use says.. "a basis or cause, as for some belief, action, fact, event, etc.:"
Interestingly enough I think these words are all synonyms with judge and opinion.. Though.. To me logic is a bit more refined than just any random opinion or judgement..
Hmm... Though.. I suppose.. Each person comes to their opinions based on their own set of logic even if it doesn't always totally make logical sense to me or others!
So.. I can see it.. Logic sort of means opinion or judge or inferred or reason.. None of these are necessarily perfect in and of themselves and they are limited to the users who are using them.

By that reasoning, we can have bad logic, bad reason, bad judgement, bad inference and so on, the word itself doesn't necessarily imply any kind of.. "accuracy" it's more just a form of producing viewpoints that have some sort of form in which they were strung together whether it was true and correct or not.

Okay, time for etymology of logic!
And.. Looks like I was right! There is a connection to logos.

"mid-14c., logike, "branch of philosophy that treats of forms of thinking, science of distinction of true from false reasoning," from Old French logique (13c.), from Latin (ars) logica "logic," from Greek (he) logike (techne) "(the) reasoning (art)," from fem. of logikos "pertaining to speaking or reasoning" (also "of or pertaining to speech"), from logos "reason, idea, word" (see Logos). Formerly also logick. Sometimes formerly plural, as in ethics, but this is not usual. Meaning "logical argumentation" is from c. 1600. Contemptuous logic-chopper "sophist, person who uses subtle distinctions in argument" is from 1846."

This is interesting indeed. And troubling, lol.
The beginning part is hard to read I think the person who put the definition in there made a typo that was never fixed..
However it sort of implies to me that.. Logic was meant to mean something more precise.

It says.. "science of distinction of true from false reasoning"
So there is something in there about it carrying a meaning of "truesness" or "accuracy".. Hm..
Also.. This part confuddles the fuck out of me, and is almost contradictory to the above mentioned part about truth!
It says.. "sophist, person who uses subtle distinctions in argument"

Sophist?!?! WTF!! WHY! Why are these words linked?
From my understanding a sophist was someone who.. Made convincing arguments that sound logical enough, but ultimately were untrue..
I'm so confused!

"one who makes use of fallacious arguments," mid-15c., earlier sophister (late 14c.), from Latin sophista, sophistes, from Greek sophistes "a master of one's craft; a wise or prudent man, one clever in matters of daily life," from sophizesthai "to become wise or learned," from sophos "skilled in a handicraft, cunning in one's craft; clever in matters of everyday life, shrewd; skilled in the sciences, learned; clever; too clever," of unknown origin. Greek sophistes came to mean "one who gives intellectual instruction for pay," and at Athens, contrasted with "philosopher," it became a term of contempt.

Sophists taught before the development of logic and grammar, when skill in reasoning and in disputation could not be accurately distinguished, and thus they came to attach great value to quibbles, which soon brought them into contempt. [Century Dictionary]"

So it does mean one who uses fallacious arguments, but it also means someone who is wise!? Weird..

I wonder if this could possibly have anything to do with the word LIE in belief..
In the sense that.. No matter how WISE any of us are, we can never fully know the truth.. So even no matter how close we think we get to such..
In the end.. It's not true, and it's our own LIMITED personal subjective anecdotal perception.

Hmmm.... Gonna have to think on this one for a while! I'm not really sure...
Think I'm going to end this session here and leave you all with another new word I discovered..
It's the opposite of enlightenment!

"obscurantism (n.)
"opposition to enlightenment," 1834, from German obscurantismus (18c.); see obscurant + -ism.obscurantismus"

Apparently the original historical Illuminati created their group in OPPOSITION to this obscurantism..
Strange... Since, they are cloaked in secrecy yet claim to be in the light and in opposition to that which is obscured?
The contradictions in life sometimes are hard to reconcile.. Is this an aspect of inherit duality? Or are things just being unecessarily confusing! Sort of like double speak!

I'm not sure..

Looking a bit deeper into the word I find the word "Ultramontanism"
Which I guess sort of means someone in favor of the church.
And through that I find the term anti-papal which I find out now that.. Pope means papa! Lol...

"papal (adj.)
late 14c., from Old French papal (late 14c.) and directly from Medieval Latin papalis "pertaining to the pope," from papa

pope (n.)
Old English papa (9c.), from Church Latin papa "bishop, pope" (in classical Latin, "tutor"), from Greek papas "patriarch, bishop," originally "father." Applied to bishops of Asia Minor and taken as a title by the Bishop of Alexandria c.250. In Western Church, applied especially to the Bishop of Rome since the time of Leo the Great (440-461) and claimed exclusively by them from 1073 (usually in English with a capital P-). Popemobile, his car, is from 1979. Papal, papacy, later acquisitions in English, preserve the original vowel."

Very fascinating! I guess I'm not surprised! The pope is suppose to sort of be the human representation or connection or communication with "God" or the "father"...
Which reminds me of another interesting word "Author" comes from "Father"... So in a sense we have these people who are writing religious doctrine becoming the literally God's of the minds of men and women who believe in their stories and words, or.. Logos, logic to tie this all back into the original word I looked up.
Likewise as I recently pointed out upon looking up the word LOGOS more, it is a word for Jesus, and.. God itself.
In the beginning there was the "word" Logos.. Logic..

And then people used that word, that logos, that logic.. To spread certain words and WORLDS onto others throughout the generations.
It's really very neat to me, how I didn't plan any of that.. And was able to start with the word logic, and then end here with logos and God and people creating worlds for others to live in with their words.
I just had a feeling that.. I was going to find something interesting when I looked up that word.. And.. I did..
PLUS.. I feel like I'm just scratching the surface here.. There's a lot more to learn especially in regards to the connection between the Illuminati and the Obscured ones obscuring things.

I think the Illuminati used the words Obscurists to describe the Roman Catholic church specifically.
And that would be fair to say, the I've heard they have all kinds of secret history hidden in their Vatican they won't share with the world.
All kinds of priceless artifacts and things we don't even know about.. They are obscuring things and hiding and occulting reality from us.
However.. Don't the Illuminati do this too? Or could it be like some believe.. That they really are the good ones?

Are either of these groups potentially good? I doubt it.. I think they are both mind controllers trying to shape the world with their words..
But.. Who knows.. I don't know.. I really don't.. I'm just scratching the surface as I mentioned.. I know very little.
However this is a fascinating line of study and I hope that if anyone managed to read all that that they learned something like I did. :)

Also I have a feeling I will learn more about this specific subject in the future, and if I do I'll definitely make another post to share what I learn with peoples!
I'm sorta like a ferret.. When I find information I share it. :)
That's enough for now. Peace!