Definitely check out this @neoxian post, The Stupidity of Hivewatchers.
Who watches the watchers?
Let's try to peel back the layers of this discussion:
Should a group fight certain things that are bad?
Should they get funding from the DAO?
Is HIVEwatchers the right group to do it?
Are they effective? Are they fair? and to circle back, are they necessary?
@guiltyparties is my mom's friend.
This guy has bent over backwards to help a lot of people a lot of times. Legends are told about him (ask @theycallmedan). And whenever I have had a problem with HIVEwatchers, I have gone to him, and he has helped me.
ECO - problems with HIVEwatchers?
Not me, more than one time I have appealed on behalf of friends of mine. Misunderstood hooligans in a decentralized world, creativity being crushed by automatons without souls.
and here is the first problem with HIVEwatchers, especially whoever runs their discord.
HIVE WATCHER STAFF IS THE BIGGEST BAG OF DICKS IN THE WORLD
<<No eco, you see they have to deal with really bad dudes! Sex traffikers and child pornographers, and everyone always lies, then cries; they have to be complete assholes in the discord to everyone, there is no other option!>>
I don't believe it. Or at least, if that's the way it has to be then maybe something like this doesn't have to exist, or is set up in the wrong way.
They were dicks when I appealed for RudyardCatling, they were dicks when I appealed for @chronocrypto .
But, and especially in the case of dear Rudyard, when I talked to guiltyparties, who was always, for me, the man behind the curtain, he just.... fixed it. Which always made me feel like at least there was a kind heart in there behind the thornbush of a discord.
Nothing decentralized about it folks. Nothing decentralized about account recovery either.
False positives are really harmful to our onboarding efforts. REALLY HARMFUL.
Can we get a report of how many sex traffickers and child pornographers they have saved us from?
This is really something to consider: HIVEwatchers has chosen its level of certainty, and errors be damned. They could have chosen a different level of severity and pompousness and tried to produce more educational materials.
Persistent people interested in making money online naturally want to make new accounts to keep trying. Hivewatchers probably can cite big account lists of poor people trying to make money on line, except that they seem to have lost the lists. We are paying a few western people, not to teach new users (no money for that!) but instead to sabotage them, ban them, mark them and chase them to new accounts until they flee the chain for good.
By the way, we have a community for making money online, its called Click Track Profit. But if you make some mistakes before you find it, and especially if your english is not that good, HIVEwatchers thinks you should go fuck yourself.
And this brings us into the modern century with AI, I'll let Mr. Dragon explain:
We need something new. An emergent system. As proof that it has left the plane of reality, already ineffective and abusive hivewatchers has set as its goal to purge the chain of AI.
Again, not to suggest solutions, propose norms, no - they are a club and they are looking for something to hit over the head. Child pornographers old news, AI is the new plagiarist - we will fight it in all its forms!
Well good luck you luddites. But that sort of 'anti-progress' goal is not something I would invest in, and I think the proposal should not be funded by this community. Consider using this tool to check which proposals you are currently voting.
From one infinite struggle to another
Must be nice to have DAO money.