Thanks for your comments @metametheus you've sparked my interest! I though I knew so much about these roses but you've helped me to see how much more there is to know so I plan to dig a lot deeper. I spend quite a bit of time with these roses, in both their fresh or dried state. they are important to me.

I have a pot of fresh rose petals brewing to drink through the day because in addition to back pain I also have menstruation cramps and somehow the combination makes me feel as though I am going to snap in half. Does it matter if you drink it hot or cold? I drink rose petal tea quite a lot but never intentionally to help relieve cramps.