Good read cheers for confirming my thoughts, Hardware wallets are rubbish, I have had nothing but headaches with my ledger nano, countless firmware updates, I still have 9 litecoin stuck on mine because I can't update the firmware as I need Windows 8 or higher, so now I have to find a new laptop with newer version of Windows just to update the piece of rubbish, as soon as I get the litecoin off it is heading straight to the trash