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RE: Throwing Another Log on the AI Bonfire!

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I note the disconnect in your discussion between basic principles, or fundamental values, and facility, or the appearance of substance. When I became enamored of the panoply of life as a child immersed in the Tongass, the largest temperate rainforest in the world, as I sought wider knowledge about terrestrial life than I could acquire through my perambulations on the island where I was raised, I discovered the rigors of cladistics, of empirical evidence, and of the nature of scientific knowledge delineated by replication of experiment and falsification.

My appreciation of the beauty of life was enhanced by the rigor of science, both of which emerged from evolutionary processes that carved away failures to meet standards resulting from physical constraints on reality. Living things that could not survive their environmental conditions didn't pass on their genes to subsequent generations, resulting in flowers, hummingbirds, and peacocks of breathtaking beauty surviving ruthless predation, natural catastrophes, and sexual selection. Scientific theory similarly was subjected to the hurly burly of prejudice, political fanaticism, and financial skulduggery, yet the ferment of free speech and empirical evidence ultimately prevailed to produce reliable and detailed understanding of the very fundamental principles the physical universe derived from.

"AI doesn't know what it feels like to make the first sale for your new business. AI can't describe the flavor of a perfect cup of cocoa."

These two sentences aren't the same. AI cannot feel anything. The sentence stating this is factually correct. However, AI certainly can describe anything, and everything, and if you task ChatGPT to describe the flavor of a perfect cup of cocoa, it will do a great job of it.

Humanity is alive, self-aware, grasping at metaphysical concepts and understanding of reality far beyond it's reach. Mammals, we're yet something far beyond animals, invested with cognition that is not the sum of our evolution, our bodies, or intent on mere facility. We rise to joy, and descend into despair. At our best we are holy, and at our worst evil. Mechanistic progress in arts and sciences results from an evolution of our understanding and inures ever greater felicity to society as we faithfully adhere to spiritual principles that value truth, beauty, and love.

When we do not, when we succumb to temptation and seek only profit, facility, or our aggrandizement, we foster chaos and create ruin, genocide, and barren waste.

These contrary results aren't the planned outcomes of our machinations, but arise from the permutations of our philosophical adherence to sound principles. Society, and the humanity that effect it, are sacred, a hopeful affect of life yearning for spiritual transcendence of mere physical existence. Prophets ubiquitously ordain we love one another, speak truly, rule justly, and act selflessly to implement society that will produce paradise, and a paradigm shift in which people will no longer suffer, hunger, hurt, and die. We hope for the human condition that is all history reveals to us to be inapplicable to our posterity after we transit a clinal boundary.

Toasters cannot love, cannot hate, cannot feel joy or suffer. None have prophesied toasters will be happy in the world to come. Translation services, TTS, the brushes in M$ Paint, are just devices, just like AI. Things do not partake in the fellowship of mankind, and have no business being interjected into our society. Hive is a society of people, not a wallet, a program, or a language model. We have no kinship with AI.

As a species evolved to be able to estimate whether we can drop a fleeing antelope with a rock flung at it's head so we can eat it, our mental faculties are utterly incapable of planning our implementation of paradise. We're lucky we can tie shoes.

Yet we observe that we are beginning the conquest of the heavens. We see the means of production of the blessings of civilization are the cutting edge of technological advance in every field of industry, are dispersing across the population today, and using them eliminates parasitic losses - and the parasites that have used our productive labor to field armies to rule us. We are transitioning to paradise as we speak, and the prophecies that our posterity will seize the stars of the heavens as footstools for their feet will come true.

So, relying on our intellectual capacity to enumerate all the possible permutations of allowing what seems easiest, most inexpensive, or facile, to produce 'value', is inadequate to our need as a society - unless it adheres to fundamental principles that underlie human society. The first principle, shorn of woo, any pretense of faith or spirituality, is that human society is comprised of people.

Toasters need not apply.

Any value that our tiny little brains might claim derive from letting AI craft our words will eventually become impediments, detractions, deprecations of our humanity that will ultimately become wounds in society we may not be able to heal. Once a dam begins to crack, the cracks spread, and leaks worsen the damage, until repair can become impossible.

I have long counseled that bots, automating social interaction, and substituting pecuniary interest for subjective curation are all contrary to the success of Hive, to no avail, and now we face the perhaps fatal infestation of AI authoring our posts.

If we can't limit society to human people, society will not survive. If we cannot limit Hive to human authors, it will quickly be overwhelmed with automated content, and no longer have utility to people. It will become an algorithm maximizing ROI that will eradicate the value Hive has to people, and the platform and token, without value, will become worthless.

Thanks!