"A tax would be taking some of your personal Hive..."
Just like out of your paycheck, right? Exactly the same dynamic as DV's. Exactly the same impact on production. DV's are taxes as far as Hive can reproduce them.
"...The DHF is not a tax..."
I never implied in any way that it was. The DHF is the Founder's stake that @ned sold to Sun Yuchen, reproduced on Hive as a fund for development. However the whales have a controlling interest in that fund, just as they do in governance. You seem to have some misunderstanding of what I did say, because I never implied the DHF was a tax. DV's are taxes, as close as Hive can get to them. The DHF is like cash on hand, quite the opposite of a tax.
"The VP passed the proposal fair and square..."
The stake has spoken. It will be disbursed without receipts, without accounting, and everything is just fine, trust the whales, pleb.
@guiltyparties isn't just 'some people'. It's a simple thing to account for expenditures. I did it yesterday when I purchased materials. $M's are being spent with nary a receipt in sight. Multiple people allege fraud, and the only means of disproving their allegations, which you can read for yourself to ascertain their credibility, is to account for expenditures with receipts. There is no accounting, and that is facilitation of fraud.
"...it's slander."
No, if I made a malicious statement in written media, it would be libel. Slander is verbal, libel is written. However, what I said was "@guiltyparties is preventing accounting for Valueplan disbursements. Disbursements that cannot be accounted for cannot be funded without facilitating fraud, and fraud is reported by several eyewitnesses with direct knowledge.
@guiltyparties is facilitating fraud."
That's not libel. Those are facts.
"...just because they don't give you or your friends money..."
I demanded @guiltyparties show receipts when multiple people alleged fraud because that would prove there was no fraud. Everything he said in response to those accusations reeked of disingenuity, and finally he flatly refused to provide receipts.
Look at my account. Note the date when I interacted with any of the people involved. None prior to these accusations. Note all the times I cashed out of Hive. Zero. I've never once taken a slim dime out of Hive. Speaking of libel, you are making up accusations out of hole cloth with absolutely no evidence whatsoever maliciously. Perhaps know something about the people you're bad mouthing before you do it.
"...this is happening in Venezuela, where the FBI has no jurisdiction."
Tell that to Julian Assange. However, many of the users of Hive are not in Venezuela, and US laws govern many financial matters that involve sending money to Venezuela. For a variety of reasons, mostly bad, even criminal IMHO, the USA is extremely dedicated to economic sanctions on Venezuela, and disbursing funds in which Americans have a financial interest or bear fiduciary responsibility without any accounting for where that money goes is a great way to attract the interest of financial crimes and even terrorist funding investigators. Cuba isn't in the FBI's bailiwick either, but Venezuela is very cautious about providing the oil Cuba desperately needs, because of American sanctions on Cuba.
Hive should not be poking that bear by disbursing funds that could be buying AK-47's for all we know. It doesn't even matter if we think that very thought is ridiculous, because it matters if it could be useful politically to evil bastards that could care less about any facts of the matter.
"Are you willing to pay $100 to $200 an hour for a CPA to audit every single expense the value plan has?"
Are you completely unfamiliar with doing business? Where did I demand an audit? Where did I mention a CPA? The money spent was spent on specific items that commonly generate receipts. When I buy materials I get a receipt. It doesn't take any CPA's or audits to provide receipts. I provide those receipts on the jobs I do so that there is no question of whether the money was spent on materials instead of hookers and blow. I do that so there is no question as to my integrity, so the people I do work for can be absolutely sure I am not committing fraud and stealing their money. It costs absolutely nothing to do.
That's how honest work is done.
@guiltyparties has spent a few hours arguing there is nothing but misunderstandings, which the parties alleging fraud absolutely deny. He could prove there is no fraud easily, without expense of any kind, or hours of arguing, by just providing receipts. As I do. As all honest people do. Instead he's spending a lot of time arguing against it.
"...they just got votes to take and spend some inflation."
No, that's not where the DHF comes from. The DHF has nothing to do with inflation. It was ninjamined stake in Steem @ned and
@dan created before the code to mine Steem was released to the public, that
@ned eventually sold to Sun Yuchen. When Hive was created that stake was reproduced as the DHF. In a sense everyone on Hive has an interest in those funds, proportional to their stake. The DHF is a fund you have an interest in, and Valueplan is spending your money, and mine, and everyone on Hive, too.
You have misunderstood some things, unfortunately, and particularly the specific accusations I have made. I did not allege there was fraud. I said there were eyewitness allegations of fraud, which I provided links to. I said @guiltyparties is facilitating fraud by not verifiably accounting for the expenditures Valueplan is making in Venezuela, which means that money could be spent on anything, such as kickbacks. I pointed out that the USA has economic sanctions on Venezuela that make that a dangerous thing to do that could cause Hive all sorts of problems we don't need, and all he has to do to prevent all those problems is to provide receipts, which he has refused to do.
That's very sus.
There are links to accounts that Valueplan principals control that funds are being sent to from accounts of people in Venezuela that receive funds from Valueplan. That suggests kickbacks that would be a reason to vote for Valueplan, a mechanism to mine the DHF and strip it of cash.
None of this is necessary for Valueplan to promote Hive with calisthenics exhibitions because receipts would prove that expenditures for merch and equipment were made to actual retailers instead of extracted by fraud. Every time you spend money at a retailer you get a receipt. If you spend someone elses money you give them the receipt and their change. That's how honest people work.
That's not how Valueplan is working.
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