I will point out that I have stated that there are good people doing good things. I have not once mentioned Crim other than that. None of the claimed fraud nor any of the obfuscation of investigation has involved anything Crim was doing or does do.

However, Crim is not the only actor in Valuplan, and my personal interactions with GP and LB really leave little doubt that there is actionable cause for seeking relief from harm. Both have not only failed to document their handling of funds they disbursed as administrators of Valueplan, but directly refused to do so when confronted with specific and credible claims of fraud.

Further, routes for funds to be routed to principals in Valueplan as kickbacks have been shown to be used for large sums.

It would be easy and free to dispel such accusations of fraud and corruption by simply showing receipts for expenditures that have been alleged to be theft. GP and LB have refused to do that, and have spent hours spewing all sorts of BS and completely disingenuous rhetoric claiming everything from interlocutors being insane, fantastic schizo conspiracy theories, and every kind of schoolyard insult and bullying tactic that can be imagined - instead of showing even one receipt.

You ask them questions about those claimed thefts by fraud and massive undocumented expenditures of funds from the DHF and see if your blind faith remains afterwards. I don't think it will.