When you say zen do you mean just mindfulness or none duality. What exactly is zen sorry I always think of zen as just peace but don’t really know.

I don’t do much esoteric tbh but if things come to me I explore them as I find it fun and am open minded. I actively do do shadow work and some conscious manifesting as I feel that just works best for me. I did try completely being for a while and I find old patterns replay then when things come up without rly going into them and rewiring them. But each to their own I think. My ultimate personal state right now is somewhere between presence and conscious manifestintg.

Interested what you exactly mean by zen too :)