I know you say it’s not connected but in the early days many new people joined every single day to that steemit chat group. It was the official link from the website. They went to get help. I bet hardly any of them are here today after the way they got treated. Essentially that platform was a great idea it was a collective chat room where new people went for help and support. If it hand’t been man handled and all the newbies laughed at and abused there would be thousands of more members from there right now. A lot also came cause they got freak payouts in the early days just as my one highly priced salad post attracted a lot of inbox messages on my fb after I shared it. How embarrassing it then went to 7 dollars lol so I’m just gonna delete it/ those big payouts are advertising. Now my big payouts are on steem. Whatever you might say, maybe you have a well paid job etc but people want to come to steem and hive to make money, get into crypto and investing, find a community of like minded people and have freedom of speech and to feel free ( hence wanting to leave fb and Twitter). There is a massive platform for artists and creatives for example to get paid to be creative through online blogging rather than clients. They are not going to do it if they can never get more than 25 dollars for a payout. Photo shoots / music equipment etc is very expensive and I’m sure they want to earn a wage too. The idea I always thought was these platforms could make it possible for them if they put in the effort and built enough following and community. Just cause your happy to only ever make the money for coffee, I respect that, but it doesn’t mean that’s what everyone wants or what will draw new people here.