yeah, i think this is my outlook on men, with a few exceptions. i'd say 75% of them don;t consider what i give to be of any real value because they are too busy thinking how great they are to pay me any attention. for as much i upvoted and supported many people in pal, the majority of them just took me for granted. i learned my lesson, im going with people who value what i do now, and screw the rest of them.