RE: RE: Waiting for the bus ... and some general thoughs on silly planning
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RE: Waiting for the bus ... and some general thoughs on silly planning

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It's terrible. I've grown up biking around, my mother got her first car when I was in school age, and she rarely would work as my private taxi driver, if I wanted to go somewhere I had to do it myself. I really got aware of the non-spoken policy of "car drivers first" as a child, and I still see quite some examples of that. Just a tiny pot hole in the car road, and someone may put up warning signs blocking the biking road or sidewalk - while the biking road can just stop without any warning, if some biker would keep 30 km/h and accidentally die due to the missing warning ... well, bad for him. Companies are paid for keeping the road clean for snow - and they don't mind dumping the snow in such a way that it blocks shortcuts for pedestrians, etc. And this is Norway - probably one of the better countries for non-drivers, things are generally much worse abroad. Of course this causes quite some bad feedback loops. One of the worst here in Norway is when people are driving their kids to school, because it's considered "too dangerous" to allow them to walk to school. My children walks to school, it's a quite nice way to walk, the most dangerous part is the last 100 meters to the school where lots of car-driving parents are trying to park and turn around their vehicles.

Things are gradually changing here in Norway and particularly here in Oslo, I believe we have passed a tipping point here. The green party has had quite much power over the politics here in Oslo during the last four years and will have even more power here over the next four years, it helps a lot.

Quite some car drivers are protesting loudly against the high road tolls, even to the extent that they have created a new protest party and getting a significant amount of votes in the Norwegian local elections of 2019.

They may be loud, they may be getting a significant amount of votes, but the political forces wanting to reduce road tolls are still in a minority, both in Oslo and the rest of Norway. There is a broad consensus that in the urban areas car traffic should not grow, even if the population grows and even if the cars are getting "greener" and smarter. The most efficient means to get there is to have relatively high road tolls in urban areas, and spend the money on public transport, roads for pedestrians and bikers, etc - but I do believe a lot can be gained in the details. Often it can be possible to making life better and safer for non-drivers without spending a lot of money, like making it illegal to stop a car outside the school in the morning, or ... simply making sure to place the bus shed at some place where it's not continuously splashed by waves is a good example. :-)

Unfortunately one of the parties having power on the national level is also against road tolls and for spending tax and oil money on building new car roads.

@tobixen: It's terrible. | Ecency