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timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
I would prefer to separate out SPS and EIP, but that gets into what I said about the change not being 100% done the way I want it to be. The main two reasons that I see are: -We are trying to change the
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timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
You bring up a lot of the problems that exist today. It is hard to imagine how changes to the economic model will play out in practice. If there is no change in behavior, then yes - things could get worse.
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timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
Misaligned incentives can lead to less desirable behavior from users. Better aligned incentives will not necessarily fix the people problem, but it might at least setup the right conditions for potential
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
It is less for “posts” and more for proposals. Development, marketing, etc.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
No. People would just get around it using “sock puppets”.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
It is not really possible. There have been hundreds of threads on this topic already. There is quite a bit of discussion already on the blockchain discussing it.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
There are indeed a lot of really tough challenges ahead of us.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
When I joined the platform, top authors were making thousands of dollars per post. I disagree that it is “impossible”. Fully acknowledge that it is a long uphill battle to even get remotely close though.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
We see the same problems. I’m doing what I can to try and improve things.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
Maybe so. We might end up there anyway, even if we didn’t make any changes. My goal is to try and make the best decision to do whatever I think has the best chance for success.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
From my viewpoint, the current system is not working well for the "little guy". I want to improve that. I actually support the changes in the hardfork because I see them as actually having potential
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
I was in favor of that too.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
Are there users on the platform who are enjoying your content? If so, then you are adding value. Leaching = creating plagiarized / spam posts then self-upvoting to steal rewards from users who are actually
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
Something that dis-incentivises vote buying would help, but I am not sure what that should be. Downvotes (hopefully) it has to be for the good of Steem and not just to protect the investments of whales
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
There are not 'flags', there are 'downvotes' - and with the amount of crap content that is getting excessively rewarded on the platform (at the expense of users who are contributing value and getting
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
HF21 in it's current form is not what I personally view as the best path forward. If it were 100% up to me, there are a lot of things I would do differently. Despite my objections over individual items
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
The hope is that the amount of rewards going to authors who are actually contributing will actually go up as a result of the changes.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
Or you, rich powerfull bosses want to stay alone on Steem sitting over your bots? Who are you talking to? I don't own, delegate to, or use any bid bots. I support stakeholders right to do what they want
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
It just boils down to tragedy of the commons.
timcliff
hf21
7y
RE: Hardfork 21 - Steem Proposal System (SPS) + Economic Improvement Proposal (EIP)
I agree with most of your suggestions. When I said in the post "If it were 100% up to me, there are a lot of things I would do differently." - that is exactly what I meant. I suggested a lot
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