RE: RE: What do you Think About Extreme Vetting?
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RE: What do you Think About Extreme Vetting?

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"huh, never heard of this clunkers thing, but agee. also agree on getting out of any country that doesnt invite us, and even some that do. RTS, sure."

Yeah cash for clunkers was horrible. That's a great point about countries who invite us. A lot of these so called wars aren't wars at all. The U.S. strongarms countries into purchasing it's security services, it's basically a protection racket in many cases.


"trump has repeatedly been derogatory about people, whether it be mexicans, women, handicapped, middle easterners, or anyone he doesnt happen to like at the moment."

The one commonality that all these people have is they are people. Being Mexican, a woman, handicapped, or middle eastern shouldn't be a free pass to escape criticism as an individual.


"i would almost prefer him to be racist because..."

Is that an admission that he's not a racist?


"i have heard many live broadcasts of him speaking, and even if its out of context, theres no way to condone his words."

Well, you don't have to condone or even like what he says. "Free" country and all right?


"so no, not all of this is "fake news". if he wants everyone to follow the rules, then why was he indicted for so many crimes himself?"

Sol Wachtler a former judge once famously said: "district attorneys now have so much influence on grand juries that 'by and large' they could get them to indict a ham sandwich." I think the key here is that Trump wasn't convicted.


"why does he skirt around releasing tax records?"

As far as I'm concerned it doesn't make sense from a publicity standpoint for him to do so. He's already said he plays the game and aims to create as little liability for his entities as possible. Giving his critics a solid number they can bandy about would be like giving them ammo to use against him.


"just the fact alone that he thinks its ok to "grab a womans pussy" goes beyond decorum."

There's no doubt what he said was real talk, but it was tacky. He was basically saying in what he thought was a private conversation, that his wealth and power gets him everywhere with women. In the clip he also said they let him, so he wasn't talking about unwanted advances.


"if you make a vast negative stereotype or generalization about a race, that is racist."

I don't think the president is making vast negative generalizations about race. If he is, perhaps you could show me the quote? I've looked into a lot of the claims and for the most part it's the media spin machine skewing it out of context. They do this a lot nowadays it's basically become weaponized.

Also, I'm not sure that a vast negative sterotype about a race is racist or just plain stupid. Perhaps it's a little of both. My racism definition is old school.


"Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." — Oxford's Lexico

I don't see the president acting in this way at all. In fact, the only way to prove it would be to find out if he believes his race is superior. As far as logical fallacies are concerned they are tricky buggers and we all fall into that trap from time to time. Maybe not stereotypes and generalizations, but there are at least 146 different types of logical fallacies.

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