Yeah I would agree - 911 was the moment that a lot of people experienced as a shock moment - and also took away the optimism - it just seems to have never came back really, I think it just got worse and worse with each year that went past - of course, this is just a ref to the west, some places prob felt no difference because thy were not bombarded with fear propaganda 24/7 which really had long-lasting impacts because it never stopped really - thanks!