@winstonalden not sure it could have been both going on at the same time or just independent of each other. Who knows but someone instructed parents not to tell us and told them we would grow out of it. My mom said as I grew older I seem to grow out of it, so she deferred to the so called experts about not telling me about it and when I was a kid and would ask questions I was told it was just speech therapy but it wasn't just speech therapy but my mom didn't acknowledge it till I brought it up and told her the diagnosis. I am not mad about it but am floor that her and my dad would keep something like that from me and they knew. That is just weird to me, I can understand when I was young young but when my son was diagnosed you would think they would have said something then but nope. LOL