but I like too the expression of the jewish father on DW , hmmm sorry, haredim... hmmm sorry, ultra orthodox, any way the guy : animals :Dahhhahahaha... but I may understand the meaning of it, but with the caveat that real animals may be way closer to the creation than most men will ever be, maybe they prefer to listen first before expressing themselves... or who knows... (ahh my sensors said , go fuck yourself animal, look at what you do to them, you are an animal).