frankly the only way to be clear with this animal, van.. before the gate of their hive in CCASC, ring, open door, splash on the ground, drop corpse. movin on... for me they are such animals, subhumans, and I mean it, not by birth, by training and ritual trainings (psywarfare conditionning obedience / acceptance etc)... simple corpse staking... at one point, they won't be able to climb :).