I am so impressed @apanamamama I have been doing 2nd ferments with Kombucha but just started with the water Kefir. I like it so far but am trying to find the right combination of flavors. I have let some go too long and believe me they can get pretty sour. I mix mine in water all day long when it is too strong. I only added the molasses to give it an extra boost to start. Now, I just use them with cane sugar. Have you found that you feel better since starting with all of them? Have fun fermenting!