I was't stressed, sorry if I came off that way. I was following the situation closely from the beginning. My whole point was in the statement you gave him no reason to go off the rails but I found that to be otherwise, your hesitance in providing otherwise reinforces that as a possible truth. I am not going back to look to see if the caps thing came first or second to your insults as one I've spent to much time on this already and two I don't consider that a reason to call names. Today it looks as things are smoothing out a bit, he's usually an easy going type fellow. I understand with so much abuse going on some people find it rather hard to be forced to change their behavior while others aren't and/or others find creative ways to continue to abuse calling it legit. One other thing, I don't recall if it was you or someone else who said that upvoting of one's post was okay but not comments. I haven't viewed and have been looking for the revised version of the white paper but when I joined the white paper said upvoting of one's post or comments wasn't allowed. It's one of the main reason's I don't up vote my own post....not that a vote to myself would be worth anything....lol. Cheers!