I like these too @bengy. They also do well crumbled up as taco meat or sloppy joes. The real problem I have with them is the packaging. I get that they are trying to compete with meat in the meat section but damn! Two patties with a piece of butcher paper under each, in a plastic tray wrapped in plastic wrap (it's actually two layers or plastic wrap if you look closely) then slid in a cardboard sleeve!?! Too much.