The over proliferation of bid bots was of course a problem and changing Steem with a hard fork to address that behaviour was fine. However here we are talking about a complete war against bid bots and promotion of posts in full, I object to that premise.

You used that word that is so emotive "rape of the reward pool" I would prefer the word plunder which is what you actually mean. However I don't agree that applies, that is to take something for nothing. A user has for whatever reasons decided to sell their vote (actually their share of the reward pool or what happens to it) another users buys it.

Now according to the Steemit FAQ's abuse is "Selling or offering to buy votes/resteems/follows, or schemes that facilitate this." so really bid bots never should of got off the ground. However I personally think they have been good for Steem and having the ability to delegate your stake for payment, with zero risks, is in my view a big selling point for Steem. Sites like Bit Lending Club, BTCpop have not worked because of the fraud aspect.

I take your point on the bots doing manual curation to pay passive investors but I don't think HF21 went far enough with the split, I wanted a reverse or even more 20/80 to the curators. Of course its one thing to reward curation but yet another to get the right curation from the users and that alas is where (I believe) it will all fall down.

I do not believe, rightly or wrongly, that the Steem price fell because of bid bots. I think the bear market and the way steem inc was run are to blame, no real updates to the block chain or the front end either.

As per the tokens I never said that a tokens only value proposition was to get votes in Steem but that for a lot of projects that acquire a lot of SP doing so will add value to the token, for many tokens it will be the only monetary value. However isn't there a case for Steem to recognise the value a token brings in building a community on the platform.

So I am saying if that community is adding benefit to Steem then by allowing up votes from the reward pool you are rewarding the value they are bringing. I certainly believe the tribes are doing that. This shouldn't be a problem since it is the portion of the reward pool they own by their collective commitment to Steem in the form of the SP they own.

Perhaps these tokens won't stand alone I am ambivalent on that either way, my only observation to their worth was the tribe aspect (Community) they have empowered. If that leads to the success of Steem then the Reward Pool portion that is used for their value, would be money well spent. That reminds me, another thing that Steem Inc was supposed to deliver and didn't, Communities.

Actually just visited Steembottracker, not been there for a long time and there are now only a handful of bid bots, I shall be eagerly awaiting the Steem price increase that should be coming real soon.