It seems that Hive has that effect in people giving a lot of hope and a skin in the game, but almost always it keeps on letting people down because it is poorly run, the price is not in the mind of the people having the power to grow it, and it is obvious from what proposals are getting funded and how the DHF money is being used. But we Hive deserve to sink along with the ship. I am waiting to experience a Titanic kind of moment here.