The common refrain that the elimination of #corporeal #punishment is why kids today are #assholes is predictably shallow in analysis, being both #gaslighting and principally a #moving of #the #goal #post of the issue of the #initiation of #coercion and #violence.
The only appropriate time to use #spanking being the immediate and ongoing threat of death to a child, such as running into the street, unless there is an inability for the child to understand the significance of the spanking, in which case it's simply needless violence.
There are circumstances where spanking "works" in that it prevents dire harm, but the cost is psychological terror due to the lack of understanding this.
Regardless, the general of why "kids are assholes" today isn't the lack of spanking them. It's the logical ongoing conclusion of an Empire on the fall. The American Empire.
It is not unusual to falsely believe you are free when that is the society you grow up in, where that is your culture, and to pass on that blind and blinding obedience, through the cultural ritual of corporal punishment.
Another cultural ritual that Americans have is male circumcision. In Muslim countries, girls are the ones whose genitals are mangled and desensitized at birth.
Likewise, we have many other forms of subjective disgust, such as one culture that eats dogs, and another pigs and cows, and the one that eats dogs is looked down on because special pleading: dogs are pets.
The schoolroom, especially at the beginning of the American revolution, was the home of religious corporal punishment, carrying on the tradition and archonic mental and spiritual infection of the blind belief in authority, via fear and punishment.
Any society that rises up and bases itself on the systematic violation of those who comprise it will always fall, which is why kingdoms never last, and why the American Empire is falling.
Those who predict doom, gloom, and an atmosphere like Sodom and Gomorrah are not entirely wrong, but there's a catch.
The one who called it done it.
God called it.
God did it.
And he told you to pull his finger.
And Jesus Christ, did we.
It is wrong to initiate violence on your children and coerce them. It is wrong that we live in a society where people defend theft, also called taxation. Why? Because the exemption to the rules and your blind faith in those who are excempt to the morality the rest of us follow, such as don't murder, but instead get a paid 2 week vacation, is why you'll be caged if you take matters in your own hands and smack your child in the ass.
In your blind belief of bullying, you and others enable the biggest bully on the block, with tie threat of kidnapping your kids if you attempt to express your preferred method of raising your child. And, this way of conducting society, as you may or may not be able to see at this point, is mutually contradictory.
It is merely the logical conclusion of the beginning notion of "tough love".
Your child didn't get to choose whether they'd be spanked, it was simply imposed and they took it, despite their pleas against, if any.
You don't get to spank them without the threat of them being kidnapped.
Those who need not be sensitive to demand, due to ongoing and systematic blind obedience, won't care.
The harder you are, and the harder you make society, the softer it will be in later generations.
The softer it is, the more rugged of men it will produce.
For, so long as we visualize ourselves as am end product, so shall we be an object of manipulation. The issue, however, isn't so much the visualization of what could be, but the letting go of the thing that you think you need:
Government.
Outside help.
Something other than you.
God.
And at the root of it all is the same belief:
You are bad.
Whether it be in terms of sin, law, or whatever, you believe that people other than you, or perhaps and especially you, need to be controlled, and that chaos would ensue if society wasn't controlled.
I don't know how to respond to this argument anymore, because I don't see order around me. I see chaos. I see social unrest. We have right now, under and with what you advocate - corporeal punishment to get obedience - with the opposite results of what you claim -- chaos, and a soft society.
You can always bring the maximum amount of corporal punishment back to go back to how it was to begin with, but you'll just get an even softer society than this one after as a result.
