These conversations would be so much easier to have if we had SMTs available and could witness how people were using them, etc.

These conversations are healthy to have but for the love of God, 110% of our focus should be on SMTs in my opinion. I know other things have needed to happen to support SMTs, but we need to shit or get off the pot.

The SMT carrot has been hanging over our heads for soooo long, it is hard to consider the future until that is addressed.