For layer 2 tokens to have value in my opinion, there needs to be a seamless way for users to enter and exit the token. They can’t rely on old school ways of thinking like “let’s get listed on exchanges”. This is where having the ability for decentralized token swaps between the layer 2 tokens, Hive/HBD, and bitcoin will be key. If we can get to bitcoin in a seamless way, than that opens the floodgates to everything and we won’t be on a liquidity island anymore. I think VSC is working to solve that as well the smart contract platform that block trades has discussed a while back.