I think the circle jerking might be useful for onboarding existing communities.

But, I think that the hope would be that the communities that are onboarded would be permeable, and then their interests and votes would expand outward.

A patron of mine is involved with several erotic roleplay / roleplay / fandom servers on discord. Science Fiction Space Opera and a whole network of Final Fantasy oriented RP servers and that sort of thing. Another community that I mentioned ought to join steem was darknest forums, and a 100 days of making comics challenge group.

These sort of pre-existing groups would be incentivized to jerk each other off when they enter, because they already have pre-existing community ties.

Sort of like how I assume most people within OCD or Creativecoin or Palnet are more inclined to vote for one another.

It's difficult to get people to take the leap for some reason -- Kind of dumb. Would be really neat to see whole groups of exhibitionistic roleplaying theatre blogs on steem.

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I'd also like to see hives that are more project production focused, -- similar to a decentralized artist collective. I've basically tried to structure something like that myself, by creating a DAO for artists, but It's hard to do that. People only want to replicate what has been demonstrated as an outstanding success.

I think in that regard, it would be useful to invest into steem and gain orca level or something so you could be a magnet and then focus your re-enforcement efforts toward a small group of people to build them up and such.

Also, I think it's probably best to focus that effort within currently existing hives, moreso than starting new hives.

But then we're talking voting circles again.

Seems like a lot of these tools are double bladed or something like that. Like, circle jerks are undesirable, but also one of the natural inclinations of growing communities.

Seems like the answer to this sort of thing for the communities would be to derive life sustaining value from an external source -- like a USD Kickstarter crowdfunding campaign associated with the graphic novel / comic work that is developed on steemit -- to make an obvious association.

Then you could still build up SP for people here, and then get more people who assume the responsibility of building the steem community.

Doesn't answer the questions of inevitable withdraw or what a sustainable rate of withdraw is -- But I guess that's something each individual needs to figure out. Seems like there ought to be some common wisdom besides, hold until you can't and then hope you can cash out before the bubble pops.