Yea, That's the long term game. I don't see myself really as a hustler, because I don't think that hustle is a very reliable way to build a long term business.

There are statistics for Patreon that indicate that the majority of people attempting to make a living there are not.

I don't know where it is -- but I assume that 20% or fewer of the total people on platform are making 80% or more of the profit.

Pareto Distribution.

This is why building a business is so critical, because it's a long and ugly and lonely and poor slog unless you're trying to be the best in an area.

Again, these ideas they're probably not for everyone, but unless you know what these things are, and how they work, it seems really likely that you're just going to be a part of someone else's machine -- someone who understands these things more than you do. In some cases, that's exactly what people are looking for - I haven't found a machine I enjoy that will take me.

Also - agreed about the HIVE being more valuable at the end of a bull run --

This gets back to the idea of multiple platforms for businesses.

I spoke with my dad once a while ago, and he told me that his job in the city had something called "Deferred Payment // Deferred Compensation" something like that. It was basically an investment account that was managed by the city that placed a steady amount of income from each check into a stock market index, [probably], over a period of 40 years until he retired.

In its best use case, I see HIVE that way.

As an investment account component of a larger income strategy.