it would be really interesting to have an actual conversation with one of the more resonable manosphere red pill guys

are you sure there are any that even actually exist...?? LOL.

t'is possible. though i dunno - from what I've gleaned, the 'reason' tending to exist at that level is distorted, whereas the type of maturation into the type of reason you're likely referring to might be more likely to come later once they ascend/grow out of the domain. I could be wrong/projecting.

I've missed your thoughts/perspectives. ☺️