First of all I think it's absolutely wild that I've never seen you on Hive before, so, hello. I honestly don't know how that happens.

There's probably not much more to add that @qwerrie and @holoz0r haven't said and that I agree with, nevertheless I'll add my two bits.

I am absolutely not a data person, and any metrics like this make me disappear to an alternative plane until the posts shifts to something I understand 😜 but what I do know is that the KE number pisses me off. A lot. It's just another metric to me that doesn't tell the whole story of what a person does on Hive, though I concede it does give us a starting point.

By now, I could have nearly 100 k of Hive like some of the seven to eight year people here that have cleverly invested, bought, and been upvotes by whales to be able to do that.

But my KE (tbh I don't even know if it's reasonable) has been affected by selling to swap Hive for BTC which, because I did that at the right time, helped pay off the last of my mortgage. I also needed some when times got a little tough.

Mine hovers around 30 k because I think that's a reasonable investment for me - personally, it shows I have skin in the game, my vote is okay, and I have some HBD earning interest. It's my sovereign right over my own HIVE to do that.

it should be way harder for those who have been here for years not holding a fair share of their earnings as Hive Power to give back to earn anything.

I imagine you'd need more defining parameters than that. There is absolutely people here that benefit from, as Holozr put it, nepotism, and it's soul crushing to see massive upvotes on posts that don't do much at all. Autovotes too are an issue, more, imo, than DVs. I benefit from autovotes though - I appreciate the ones I have because they keep me here somewhat, as does larger curation, but I'm just a little fish and very rarely get the super votes above 50 HP. Most are from people I like to think autovote me because they know I'm a good player that invests in Hive in many ways.

So yes, investment in Hive takes so many forms that the KE number doesn't reflect. Does the person being curated:

a) produce good content
B) engage with comments
C) engage with other posts
D) run a community in a dedicated way
E) encourage engagement through initiatives like writing challenges, comment rewards etc
D) delegate to others to help them grow
E) encourage and help newbies

And more I can't think of right now.

I've given up thinking Hive will moon, BUT, I'm happy if it's consistently at a certain amount, like .50 (I'm on AUD). The attraction for me is, and always has been, the SOCIAL aspect, which starts with cool content - even if it's poorly written with blurry photos, if it's interesting, I'm happy. I don't want to go into the warm and fuzzy data - you know what I mean.

I was going to leave Hive for good four years ago. Started the wallet process. Yet here I am, because of the warm and fuzzies. I stopped with the wallet and price obsessing and focused on what I really got out of it. I rarely engage with negatives. But I'm here because good friend @holoz0r called me to this post, and here I am commenting instead of knitting, which I must get on with.