I see. I tend to be a lone wolf when it comes to associating with others, although it can be a disadvantage, I also find organizations get . . . tricky. So you are not too far from me then! Maybe a 20 hour drive. So far, I have been working on dislodging the tree by cutting the big roots with a sawsall, and then we tried yanking it out with our big truck, didn't budge. So I will keep dislodging roots, moving material, and then I may try the fire thing. Work in progress!