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John K Thompson posted to Donald MarshallAre there any 'good' Vrill, Greys, or other genetic variants that would be, or are, willing to join the side of disclosure and to "live and let live"? By good, I mean, are for peace. Surely there must be. Not all humans are evil (act on evil impulses), so how about the opposite? Are there covert vril/etc. that are secretly working towards altruistic peace between species?Laurence Mountford you have to factor in around 6000 years of cruelty to humanity, and dread of our species. some actually do think that there is a way for us to coexist. problem is john. when you see. when you actually see what they've done... actually I'll let captain picard explain itLaurence Mountford The Line Must Be Drawn Here - Star Trek: First Contact (6/9) Movie CLIP (1996) HDStar Trek: First Contact Movie Clip - watch all clips
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click t...See more24 November at 23:18 · Unlike · 6Laurence Mountford they aren't even loyal to each other. they are loyal to "the cause" which seems to involve fucking us over at every turn, their eventual take over and consumption of this world. then they can slink back underground. wait and do it all over againJohn K Thompson Laurence, thanks for your response. I'll be candid: here we are; all of us (myself included) talking, sharing and exposing these apparently vile and wicked monsters. Yet, wicked and vile are simply terms to express our collective or individual perception of morality. And what of the human race? Are we so self-righteous that we are blind to the acts of wickedness and destruction that we cause for our own innate pleasures? We humans feast on the flesh of other creatures; we corral "lower" species and herd them unnecessarily when the great and wonderful earth provides all the grains and vitamins and proteins we would ever need. We expand, consuming resources in blind greed, justifying our actions through man-made laws. We think we're dominate, therefore we can cut down those trees on "our" property. How sublimely one-sided our thinking is. The creatures below may very well be monsters - but so too are we.John K Thompson Everything that you spoke of above, concerning the Vril...consider, that humans fit this description as well. I have nothing but the highest respect for those on this page, those exposing evils; but I will not draw a line, encompassing a whole species as pure evil.John K Thompson You like to use videos to explain your point, so I will too - and make no mistake, I am an ally in the fight against true evil; but I also believe in the hope of peace. The Doctor talks of this to the Master in this clip. There must always be hope that goodness and reason will prevail; never stooping to their levels. These are lessons that I am humbled to say I'm still learning; but I stand on what I believe. Doctor Who : The End Of Time part 2...Doctor Who New Years Day special, ----------------------------------------------...See moreJohn K Thompson And so, I ask again - are there any among the Vril, that are bold enough to forge a new future, a better future? For that matter...are there any humans?Donald Marshall No good vrill, no good hosts but they'll fake it... they all gotta be wiped, there are lots of humans at cloning that don't want to be there, that hate vrill and hosts, but they're scared.Laurence Mountford Yeah John. everything you just did, everything you said. is something Vrill will never understand. we dont fit the description of Vrill John. at least not anymore. and if you know of Vrill you'll know that they played a big part in history. or as I like to call it. Hostery. This is what i'm saying. you don't realise the depth of these creatures. its nice to hear about them and just assume that, yeah some MUST be good out of some strange universal Duality that says everything must have a light and a dark side. you were Candid so ill be the same. Im gonna kill these fucking things. as many as I can find; they've been slinking in the shadows of human history for millions of years. hows about this for another videoLaurence Mountford Doctor Who - The Eleventh Doctor is a Badass (OUTDATED VERSION)UPDATED VERSION:
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...See moreLaurence Mountford listen from 7.00 onLaurence Mountford theyve been out of time for the longest timeDonald Marshall Hostery!,... XD LOL!Hippie Lovegods A scorpion once requested a favor from a camel. The scorpion wanted to cross a deep river but could not find any way to do so. Seeing a camel nearby, the scorpion approached him and asked the camel to carry him across. The camel refused, saying, “You will sting me.”"No, no. I am an ethical scorpion. I promise I won’t sting you.”The camel agreed and, taking the scorpion on his hump, began crossing the river. Halfway across, the scorpion suddenly stung the camel.“Why did you do that?” the camel asked. “Now we will both die.”“What can I say?” the scorpion replied. “It’s my nature.” _!Hippie Lovegods it's not that humans have a dark side but that they also are capable of great compassion and empathy...we cannot ascribe those qualities so easily to another species _!Laurence Mountford lol THAT I saw on star trek! ^Laurence Mountford star trek voyager specificlikLaurence Mountford it was a fox in star trekHippie Lovegods cool do you guys have a link _!Laurence Mountford parts one and twoo just type star trek voyager watch online, you find them
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Scorpion (Star Trek: Voyager) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaen.wikipedia.org"Scorpion" is a two-part episode of Star Trek: Voyager, the cliffhanger between ...See moreLaurence Mountford its a good two parter. has the borg in it. which are probably vrill as they create drones. just there isnt a hive mind with them like you see in thisHippie Lovegods gonna check it out, thanks.John K Thompson Thank you all for your insight. So the scorpion, like the vril, have no free will, as their choices are pre-determined by their nature/instincts?John K Thompson Then again, I've never met a talking scorpion.John K Thompson I've said this before, but I'd love nothing more than to study these Vril in real life. I find them potentially frightening and fascinating at the same time.Hippie Lovegods well nature and free will are two different things...free will itself is a human concept...as far as I know _!Laurence Mountford John, your issue is understanding what is choice? do we have choice? and are we responsible for said choices? cause. if you see the universe in a linear perspective you see that when something happens it was then always going to have happened as you can trace all the circumstances which brought about that happening. Vrill a long time ago, before we were even able to stand upright, decided we were primitive apes. then always saw us as that. even now with all this technology and development. THEY made a choice to treat us poorly. and now. humanity will make a choice to end those who treat them badly. some of us will be cruel. very cruel. some of us will regret. some like you will question. but we'll all do it. because everyone understands the negativity they bring not just to us but to all the elites who will claim they were so afraid of these creatures that they had no choice. but they did. like everyone else. frankly. im concerned anymore with morality in the way you see it. we are all a part of reality. existence itself it just an endless stream of shifting calculations, evolving and unfolding. so. add: one planet full of vrill PLUS one surface full of humans Plus constant amounts of torture pain death and suffering Divided by our ability to figure it out basically = Vrill all die.John K Thompson I view 'free will' as the independent ability to make a choice. Example: your dog choses to eat your shoes...or not. It's 'nature' may over-ride it's analytical side, but it still has free will. So yes, I would agree they are 2 different things. Concerning the Vril...I would assume...are quite similar: perhaps they CAN chose; they just have an impulse that is stronger.John K Thompson I do not view the universe in a linear way. I see it as in potentially infinite array of cause and effects.Laurence Mountford dude thats looking at it in a linear wayLaurence Mountford looking at a nonlinear way of the universe would be seeing Effect Preceed causeHippie Lovegods in any case it's hard to deal with a species that considers you as food or as a vehicle to hijack (drone) _!Donald Marshall cant peacefully coexist with Vrill,... it'd be like letting sharks live in your pool... yeah sure they'll eat one of yer kids every once in a while, but hey... it's what they do,... let's pat them, lolJohn K Thompson I like your train of thought Laurence, but I do not agree.Laurence Mountford youre basically trying to make it more complicated than it is. John i bullshit you naught that if you saw a vrill trying to attack you and you could kill it you would. and if you spent an hour watching these creatures do as they do. you'd want they all dead too. they torture children John. our children.John K Thompson ^ yes, I would kill them; as I swat at mosquitos and kill fleas.John K Thompson ^ yes, I understand what they do/have done.Laurence Mountford then get on my train of thought John. dont be a pussy peacful protestor when it comes to this. this is the reason for most of the negativity in our world. you talk about free will and choice. do all beings have that? what about babies john. little children kidnapped in their dreams. did they make the choice to come. to die. to suffer. if we all personal responsibilty. then we ALLLLLL have it. including vrill. they are responsible for their actions. so they will endure our response. that is all4 hours ago · LikeLaurence Mountford stop taking responsibility for the actions of something other than youLaurence Mountford if we find a vrill that literally says "hey, yeah i hated this too, i'll explain everything". by all means lets keep him alive for a little longer. see what he's got to say, then make a decisionLaurence Mountford Assume nothing about their thoughts being anywhere similar to yours. the droning aspect of them is a sexually fueled desire. and you should know that sex is the one thing you cannot stopDonald Marshall The only possibility besides eradication of Vrill is enforced segregation, contain them underground, but I don't think people will feel comfortable knowing there are deadly monsters underground, no matter how many miles down they are.Laurence Mountford or even how to police such a thing. no doubts they could come up from anywhere where theres a hole. including the oceans. they'll infiltrate. take over again. you dont segregate a virus. you eradicate itDonald Marshall This is true,... I say wipe em. Donald Marshall keep some to study.John K Thompson These issues will eventually arise for more than just us to discuss. I'm not being a pussy by suggesting that mal-behavior exists in all sentient creatures, and that this same mal-behavior is the true enemy, not the life of the creature itself.Laurence Mountford sigh. you know john i used to be so spiritual like you. after a while. you realise being that altruistic. comes at a price. and its generally too high. Vrill will pray on your compassion John. then kill you the next moment they have a chance. that is their life.Laurence Mountford dude you arent talking about mal behaviour in all creatures. youre suggesting goodness in all. but as we say. good is a point of view. and vrill have their own. you can't apply humans standards to them. they take over humans!John K Thompson I agree. It does come at a price.Donald MarshallDonald Marshall's photo.
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Donald Marshall They're not good to hang with... lolLaurence Mountford Vrill 1: "well he was nice"... Vrill 2: "yeah but he didnt taste that great"John K Thompson Listen, I'm going to digress, but I'll say this - I'm on your side. I just see the world from a different point of view.Laurence Mountford no you see the world from a point of view that been given to you to make you more susceptible to being weak when it comes to killing vrill. they lived for thousands of years controlling us. you think its a coincidence you then find these beliefs in a world controlled by them... thats fun. this is why don says kill them all. he knows what they do, he's seen it. whereas we, can only imagineDonald Marshall yeah, once you see what they're all about, you'll all understand. Laurence Mountford the only reason im saying this to you john in this way is cause. I USED TO THINK EXACTLY LIKE YOU. honestlyLaurence Mountford but what you're saying is akin to a Roast chicken trying to talk its way out of being eaten when its in the middle of the table surrounded by hungry people while its lathered in gravyDonald Marshall They MAY get introduced to the public, a nicer looking one, talking smoothly like the long necked thing in Star Wars "Attack of the Clones" <--- (LOL) and they'll act like they're nice... but they're not. They don't even like to talk like that, their regular voices are weird, like grover from sesame street, or some other goofy sounding muppet.John K Thompson Weak to killing Vril? My friend, I was a soldier long before I philosophized. I carry (as in presently) enough guns and ammo to hold out for a substantial amount of time. Do you think of me as some passive soon-to-be-host?John K Thompson The way of the warrior must be tempered with compassion.Donald Marshall lol no one wants to be a host I don't think.... it's not like the recent movie :The Host", a coexistence.Donald Marshall total domination takeover, no comin back... I can't wait to blast some crabnasties. David Weir Do they have weapons of mass destruction?Donald Marshall I think I'll sleep better once I know they're all dead... aaaand at the same time, people around the world will be cleaning out deep bases and shutting down cloning centers left and right....Donald Marshall Yeah, vrill have said they have weapons to do this and that, unsure if thats true or not,... I'm not really sure who is the main faction in control... vrill said they have a pole shift button, said they can cause solar flares, can blot out the sun, said lots of things.David Weir Sounds like we have the numbers to over come, just wonder if the military will turn on them?Donald Marshall Some high up military are hosts...Donald Marshall The ones that aren't are scared of hosts.Donald Marshall oh and dead chipped head psycho's too, mixed in there too... buncha weird stuff around.David Weir Wow, they really are parasites, this is going to be complicated.Hippie Lovegods with the current state of Synthetic biology a bio weapon specifically targeted at the Vrill genome should be possible if not invented already...much easier than a shootout...released as a gas it would permeate the air underground...should keep things under control _!Hippie Lovegods Top crypto kats should be able to hack the dead chipheads and cause them to off themselves _!Hippie Lovegods Since the droned can't reproduce drones....they have a limited shelf life _!Hippie Lovegods Those Clones though....what we gonna do ?Donald Marshall Clones can be id'd by medical tests, there'll be a lot of testing.Eric Pete Tortoise on his back test....lolEric Pete's photo.
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