Yea, i think we''ll have to agree to disagree, lol. Yes there may be a few exceptions to the rule that there are a few hotshot trading mavericks who just always in the right crypto.. selling when they should.. buying when they should. However the reality of the situation is the drops in crypto are so significantly huge that those losses probably can't be made up unless you're a master dca person and again you gotta be in the right place at the right time which is not most crypto traders.

If you take someone like Michael Saylor who invested billions upon billions in bitcoin. When he was buying at 30k and 40k.. well the bottomline with him and his company and bitcoin is he's just lost a shitload of money. He thought he was smart.. Where he was dumb he chose to join the bitcoin bandwagon way too late in the game.

he talked bad about bitcoin in the beginning then he did the turncoat thing like many did after they found out there were too dumb to understand the potential of bitcoin but understood it too late.. First time movers win not late people to the party. coin creators win.. not investors in the coin. exchanges win not the people risking their money on the exchanges.

So yes there may be a few examples of people who winning longterm in crypto but i don't think it's that many. If you look at both our accounts. i got less than $20 b ucks in all my hive accounts, lol.. looks like you got maybe $400. which is certainly better than $20 but i'd rather create a coin where we both were guaranteed like $1000 a month. Even if that's not possible i rather work towards a system like that where we all agree that makes more sense then we have a chance of winning.

i been around here for 5 years.. not complaining i have a ton more than most people i know and i do pretty much whatever i want. I'm pretty secure financially and i don't know how long you been on here i didn't check but our accounts have $20 to $400 bucks in it and if you been on here for years i don't consider that winning. Do idk man you tell me what winning exactly suppose to look like because with most accounts around here they don't fit my definition of winning but idk maybe some people live in africa or vietnam and they may be winning.