i guess it's a matter of perspective on that. i believe when bitcoin failed as a currency the space lost. I'm not exactly a bitcoin cash fan either but i do believe bitcoin cash atleast pushed a closer idea of bitcoin.

So as bitcoin just turned completely into a useless speculative device who won then? The banks and institutions and money men who always win when it's time to speculate with other peoples money. Currencies don't do that.

So the only thing people wanna use crypto for now is the chance to get rich.. nothing else, lol. so it's a las vegas poker chip. it's a lottery ticket essentially and it's controlled by the same money men who control fiat currency. So yes bitcoin cash did lose but so did we.