RE: RE: Democracy on the Line
You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

RE: Democracy on the Line

Words
1270
Reading
6 min
Listen
Play
2y

Oops sorry I got busy I replied in detail but got busy before I could finish and I guess the moment has passed now… I reckon I’ll instead give a general reply in good spirit rather than covering every point:

I never mentioned Trump. What was it about my blog that made you think of Trump?

Sorry if that’s the case! It just sounded like very specific talking points I can practically quote that are against trump but I guess they’re just crossed wires.

Well, I think regarding Trump, it really does depend on one’s priorities, perspectives and experiences, and I think these are not frivolous things and all sides have some validity.

One massive point I’m totally in agreement with Trump – the Media is the enemy. All sides. I’ll die on that hill!

There is indeed a gigantic laundry list of misinformation and lies targeted at him which have, ultimately, lead to a double assassination attempt due to the desperation of one side to ‘defeat’ the evil opponent. Here’s just a few I can think of:

  • The whole 'bloodbath' lie. They accused him of inciting violence by using this term ‘if he didn’t get into power’. What he actually said was in reference to the car industry, as in, it would be an economic bloodbath unless he is in power to deal with the unfair trade practices with China.
  • The whole Russia collusion lie (costing billions) – There’s simply no evidence of it, just some perhaps poor practices like unrelated business dealings there. All media simply went quiet.
  • The suckers and losers comments - no evidence, and others deny ever hearing such things, but it persists to this day.
  • 'Fine people' remark mentioned before which was simply disgusting editing. They insist, even now, that he won’t condemn white supremacists and Qanon and others, even though there’s multiple videos of him doing so.
  • Leaving NATO, something he never took action about, but he did get NATO members to pay their fair share with a threat or two - as they were indeed massively under-contributing.
  • Conspiracy theory that he planned being assassinated to get political points. Nonsense.

Capitol Riots. This one is complex.

I do agree much was done wrong here, far too deep to go into details, BUT, I noticed your excerpts were misleading, coming from the Associated Press. Where you cited, for example:

So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.

Video footage of this speech is markedly different:

We’re going to try and give our Republicans – the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help – we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country

We’re gonna walk down to the Capitol, and we’re gonna cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. And we’re probably not gonna be cheering so much for some of them

How much irreparable damage in the mainstream perception of this man has occurred from that single manipulation of reality? To imply that he's talking physically weak because they're going to engage in combat. It’s mind boggling to think how much unnecessary hatred and fear has been stewing due to media lies. Further, you do cite this:

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Then we will see whether republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections.

People also foamed at the mouth of terror, stating his incitement of violence by using the word ‘fight’, and yet this is frequently used by everybody as a figurative term, and understood as such until it’s convenient to misrepresent it.

Overall, what I don’t like is this general consensus that the left-wing media is the generally intelligent, morally correct arbiters of truth, while the right are dumb conspiracy theorists who all love Hitler and hate gay people. In my mind, left and right no longer makes sense, it's simply tribalism. This is why people on the 'left' call black people who support Trump 'race traitors' among many other awful things. They're not following the tribe of their skin colour.

Nobody in media will tell you that Trump's stance on LGBT rights is historically quite pro, and left-leaning.

So, when it comes to what people hear on the media, well, what do they trust? What CAN they trust? The answer is very little. People need to decide for themselves what truly matters.

Does it matter, in the context of the nation’s leader, if he’s a criminal, or say lewd things about women? Or that he’s generally a financially corrupt individual? To many people that means everything - and that’s totally fair.

To others, it doesn’t mean anything at all – this is also fair. Instead, they focus on how anti-war he is, how much he is anti-nuclear weapons, his position of peace through strength, his attitude on immigration and his American Protectionist philosophy.

To some, the ‘presidential immunity’ is a dystopian legislation of hell designed to let him do whatever he wants. To others, what if Harris wins? She gets that same power too – terrifying for those who oppose her.

To some, Communism is the greatest danger, and Trump the greatest antidote to it.

There are more policies he put in place than I can count which democrats either straight up give bipartisan support or quietly continue on their own in silent bipartisan support. (deleting my long list for brevity but I wrote about 20)

He’s not all bad. He’s certainly bad, but so are democrats. It all depends how you read it. From his personality and history of lies and corruption, to his overall presidential policies, I don’t like him and so, I likely wouldn’t vote at all.

But, I just can’t see this desperate claim that he’s a nazi, a white supremacist racist, a dictator, friends with Putin, ready to throw the country into civil war. It just doesn’t match reality. If people want to vote for him, I think that’s fine and valid.

Ultimately, the USA is going to be fine no matter who is in power, when compared to the rest of the world, which is falling apart at a much faster rate than the USA which at certain points has recently seen growth even faster than CHINA. The people over there are smart, productive, innovative and creative, and they sit on a hotbed of resources the rest of the world spend their days green with envy about.

Ideologically, the USA is very sick, from an outside perspective, and needs healing.
This is NOT going to happen while Trump is in power, which is to me one of the main arguments against voting for him. But at the same time, his provocative, controversial style does bring to light what was once silently hidden.

Perhaps that has value to many.

I hope I don't come across as 'I know more about a country I never visited' - I couldn't genuinely think that really. But it is true I'm very engaged in American politics most days, more so than boring British politics. My whole adult life has been abroad, all my friends have been American. I think I'm at least fairly well-versed, albeit missing nuance one can only get by a real lived experience.

At the end of the day, I just want people to respect each others' views and choices, without tacking on a doomsday narrative behind everything!