Thanks for the confirmation. I had larvae I think thrips but that was raticated with neem oil. I was just watching this guy on YouTube buildasoil he started talking how people are missinformes with neem oil and it's safe but he said he will get into it more in another video. Didn't find it. The guy is legit as far as growing, he also sells neem oil though...lol. Also, I was watching pro growers I think it was kings garden or one of the other popular brands and they dip the plant in neem oil entirely, right after rooting them. Thanks for the info. I feel like people always trying to sell something so they will say anything just to make money.