here is a study where they tried to prove the flu was contagious.

https://www.thebernician.net/scientists-proved-viruses-are-not-contagious-in-1918/

flu shot isn't proven to work, and doesn't guarantee anything, if you die, to bad! can't sue big Pharma has immunity.

why does anyone listen to anything they say? look at these lies!

and it just goes on and on. this makes more sense: how plumbing, not vaccines, eradicated disease

even at that, it seems that our minds are the most important factor, what we think, as how we act impacts our physical health. I believe it is proven as pre-med people that learn about disease often get the very diseases they are learning about.

placebo effect is often within a few points of the 'drug' they are testing.

seems to me this proves the real problem is in the thinking, and that the placebo clearly is affective.

ironically, someone using it affectively would be called a charliton as it would be provable nothing was in what they gave..

but it would work.

until folks came along to destroy the idea that was really what was working.