This wont 'turn around very quickly'. Thats the perma bull in you talking, he is not your friend at the moment. Cash is king in this environment which wont change anytime soon. (years) Fear is here for a long time yet, maybe im crazy but we are on the verge of a major WW conflict. Its going to get real, as in real things. IN this environment its not about how much can i make mindset, its how much of can i not lose. 2025 you need to stay solvent for, like you said you might need to sell soon regardless. There will be so many other people like you.