You hit some great points and thebig one for me is the culture that Hive frowns upon people cashing out. You are considered scum if you powerdown. So you are right, the whole idea of being able to live off your efforts here, just doesn't exist.

Yeah unless one of the good ol' boys gets funding and begin any new project, good luck trying to get a proposal through. The DHF is great on paper but awful on execution.