You spent several replies spewing invective and failing to make any case for anything. You continue to deliberately misrepresent my actual clearly-stated argument regarding the nationalist "we." Government is not society. Rejection of the State is not rejection of cooperation, quite the opposite in fact. You make a big deal about "Nation," but what is it? We have diverse cultures, regional traditions, and local customs. There is no homogeneous whole, just a territorial claim made by a political class of plunderers. Your arguments beg the question by assuming this is all legitimate.

The founding fathers were not infallible. Hell, they compromised on the matter of slavery. They thought taxation was only a problem due to the absence of "representation." Well, now we have "representation," and the taxation is far more oppressive than anything King George could have imagined. There is nothing voluntary or consensual about any of it. As Spooner clearly argued, there can be no real representation in a system of secret ballots. There is no agent/principal relationship whatsoever. Voters are usurpers when they claim to speak for their neighbors. It's a farce.

And then there's your classic ergo decedo. "Go fuck off where you don't despise what everyone else does, thinks (despite your notion) and says." This dodges criticism in a cowardly manner. Address the argument. Don't attack the person making it. Act like a civilized human being.